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		<title>By: Soul Miners Daughter</title>
		<link>http://www.countryuniverse.net/2009/09/09/ladies-gents-your-2009-cma-nominations/#comment-105923</link>
		<dc:creator>Soul Miners Daughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really thought Sugarland was going to show up BIG this year but I guess those cancellations did them in.  Shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really thought Sugarland was going to show up BIG this year but I guess those cancellations did them in.  Shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Knightwalker</title>
		<link>http://www.countryuniverse.net/2009/09/09/ladies-gents-your-2009-cma-nominations/#comment-104964</link>
		<dc:creator>Knightwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a little theory of mine about one of the reasons Swift stirs up so much animosity from people that love Country and its roots and traditional sound.  I think that Swift has proven that she has all the required elements to be a superstar; looks, songwriting ability, charisma and personality and humble attitude, and she had/has the potential to bring a ton of people to country music where they might discover other artists and help to give new life to what we have coming out of Nashville.  I think many people that see this potential in her and see that instead of using that talent to create music that fits more neatly into a more traditional country sound, she follows her own instincts and tastes in her music, so that it becomes just more country-pop, no matter how good (or bad, as some of you might say) it is.  I think this gives many people a sense of betrayal, she could be helping to rebuild mainstream country as it was, or at least help keep it from sliding down any further.  I&#039;m a big admirer of her as a person and I enjoy nearly all of her songs, but I do say that I have hopes that she will rediscover the country she played and listened to years ago and at some point cuts some acoustic albums and songs, leaving out the percussion, rocks guitar and so forth. I don&#039;t think she needs that rock/pop sound to attract a huge fanbase. Maybe someday]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a little theory of mine about one of the reasons Swift stirs up so much animosity from people that love Country and its roots and traditional sound.  I think that Swift has proven that she has all the required elements to be a superstar; looks, songwriting ability, charisma and personality and humble attitude, and she had/has the potential to bring a ton of people to country music where they might discover other artists and help to give new life to what we have coming out of Nashville.  I think many people that see this potential in her and see that instead of using that talent to create music that fits more neatly into a more traditional country sound, she follows her own instincts and tastes in her music, so that it becomes just more country-pop, no matter how good (or bad, as some of you might say) it is.  I think this gives many people a sense of betrayal, she could be helping to rebuild mainstream country as it was, or at least help keep it from sliding down any further.  I&#8217;m a big admirer of her as a person and I enjoy nearly all of her songs, but I do say that I have hopes that she will rediscover the country she played and listened to years ago and at some point cuts some acoustic albums and songs, leaving out the percussion, rocks guitar and so forth. I don&#8217;t think she needs that rock/pop sound to attract a huge fanbase. Maybe someday</p>
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		<title>By: Knightwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knightwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[actually Taylor did play many clubs and bars in Nashville when she first got there.  The first show she did that made any kind of news that I know of was when she was introduced at a show Bill Anderson did in 2004 at the Old Hickory Country Club.  And she used to play for hours at a little cafe at Stone Harbor in New Jersey when she was 11-12.  True she became famous on myspace but she did work her way there first in live cafes, bars etc before that, just like many other artists have and still do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually Taylor did play many clubs and bars in Nashville when she first got there.  The first show she did that made any kind of news that I know of was when she was introduced at a show Bill Anderson did in 2004 at the Old Hickory Country Club.  And she used to play for hours at a little cafe at Stone Harbor in New Jersey when she was 11-12.  True she became famous on myspace but she did work her way there first in live cafes, bars etc before that, just like many other artists have and still do.</p>
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		<title>By: Leeann Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leeann Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, we welcome healthy, respectful debate here.  You brought up points that are on lots of people&#039;s minds, so it&#039;s all certainly worth discussing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, we welcome healthy, respectful debate here.  You brought up points that are on lots of people&#8217;s minds, so it&#8217;s all certainly worth discussing.</p>
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		<title>By: Leeann Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leeann Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gail,
My initial comment was responding to this part of your comment:

&quot;If she does win, then what does she strive for later? At nineteen and already at the top…unbelievable and a little ridiculous..in my opinion.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail,<br />
My initial comment was responding to this part of your comment:</p>
<p>&#8220;If she does win, then what does she strive for later? At nineteen and already at the top…unbelievable and a little ridiculous..in my opinion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just didn&#039;t see where I mentioned her not deserving an award. I just was saying I for some reason cannot hold Taylor in the same regards as some of the older artist. And too, Kevin, Trisha at the beginning of her career of being a demo singer is to me nowhere near the giant phenomenon Swift is currently..do you think? I think Taylor is sweet and cute...but she just does nothing for me. I cannot in any way consider her a country artist. She may be in the country format and that&#039;s fine but I personally don&#039;t care for her music. Not being mean, it&#039;s just how I feel. Didn&#039;t mean to get any kind of debate started. You know how you click with some artist and some you don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just didn&#8217;t see where I mentioned her not deserving an award. I just was saying I for some reason cannot hold Taylor in the same regards as some of the older artist. And too, Kevin, Trisha at the beginning of her career of being a demo singer is to me nowhere near the giant phenomenon Swift is currently..do you think? I think Taylor is sweet and cute&#8230;but she just does nothing for me. I cannot in any way consider her a country artist. She may be in the country format and that&#8217;s fine but I personally don&#8217;t care for her music. Not being mean, it&#8217;s just how I feel. Didn&#8217;t mean to get any kind of debate started. You know how you click with some artist and some you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Milliken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Milliken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gail said,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Like I said, I don’t begrudge her quick success, but still can’t think of her as an artist that will stand the test of time,and I won’t ever be able to put her in the category with the artist I mentioned. Do you honestly think Taylor could have reached success without the internet??&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

These are really interesting points. I don&#039;t know if she could have achieved what she has without the internet, but that&#039;s the thing: she understands better than just about any act out there how to exploit the power of the internet and give her fans exactly what they want - namely, more access to her, the artist. I don&#039;t think she learned that from record execs, because even record execs have struggled with it. She wouldn&#039;t have anything to sell if her songs didn&#039;t have appeal, and I think that alone is evidence of serious hard work on her part, but it&#039;s also clear she&#039;s been working &lt;i&gt;smarter&lt;/i&gt; than a lot of people in marketing terms, which has definitely been equally important.

I agree that she probably wouldn&#039;t have succeeded trying to perform her way up through bars, but I don&#039;t begrudge her that, because neither would a lot of pop-oriented singers. Pop music today is very much about the production, Taylor&#039;s included, so it wouldn&#039;t have worked for honky tonk performances and the like. And yeah, she&#039;s not a great singer. So that setting wouldn&#039;t have played to her strengths.

Now, as to whether she&#039;ll stand the test of time - I have no idea. Taylor Swift&#039;s pervasiveness is such that we consume everything she puts out very subjectively. I don&#039;t know if future generations will find her songs objectively good or be absolutely baffled as to why there was hysteria about her. I could really see it going either way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail said,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Like I said, I don’t begrudge her quick success, but still can’t think of her as an artist that will stand the test of time,and I won’t ever be able to put her in the category with the artist I mentioned. Do you honestly think Taylor could have reached success without the internet??&#8221;</i></p>
<p>These are really interesting points. I don&#8217;t know if she could have achieved what she has without the internet, but that&#8217;s the thing: she understands better than just about any act out there how to exploit the power of the internet and give her fans exactly what they want &#8211; namely, more access to her, the artist. I don&#8217;t think she learned that from record execs, because even record execs have struggled with it. She wouldn&#8217;t have anything to sell if her songs didn&#8217;t have appeal, and I think that alone is evidence of serious hard work on her part, but it&#8217;s also clear she&#8217;s been working <i>smarter</i> than a lot of people in marketing terms, which has definitely been equally important.</p>
<p>I agree that she probably wouldn&#8217;t have succeeded trying to perform her way up through bars, but I don&#8217;t begrudge her that, because neither would a lot of pop-oriented singers. Pop music today is very much about the production, Taylor&#8217;s included, so it wouldn&#8217;t have worked for honky tonk performances and the like. And yeah, she&#8217;s not a great singer. So that setting wouldn&#8217;t have played to her strengths.</p>
<p>Now, as to whether she&#8217;ll stand the test of time &#8211; I have no idea. Taylor Swift&#8217;s pervasiveness is such that we consume everything she puts out very subjectively. I don&#8217;t know if future generations will find her songs objectively good or be absolutely baffled as to why there was hysteria about her. I could really see it going either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin J. Coyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin J. Coyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to mention all of the artists who were discovered as demo singers, most notably Trisha Yearwood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention all of the artists who were discovered as demo singers, most notably Trisha Yearwood.</p>
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		<title>By: Leeann Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leeann Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gail,
I suppose it was, as far as it was my quick contribution to the discussion, which I think is a good one.  

Just as I don&#039;t think Carrie Underwood deserves flack for getting her start on a talent show and not in the bars, I also don&#039;t  hold Taylor Swift&#039;s start against her either.  There are a number of respected legends who got their starts in other ways than &quot;paying their dues&quot; in bars or clubs, including Connie Smith (who didn&#039;t even have any intention of singing as a career) meeting Bill Anderson at a local talent show.  So, this is not necessarily a new phenomenon that&#039;s exclusive to this generation of music.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail,<br />
I suppose it was, as far as it was my quick contribution to the discussion, which I think is a good one.  </p>
<p>Just as I don&#8217;t think Carrie Underwood deserves flack for getting her start on a talent show and not in the bars, I also don&#8217;t  hold Taylor Swift&#8217;s start against her either.  There are a number of respected legends who got their starts in other ways than &#8220;paying their dues&#8221; in bars or clubs, including Connie Smith (who didn&#8217;t even have any intention of singing as a career) meeting Bill Anderson at a local talent show.  So, this is not necessarily a new phenomenon that&#8217;s exclusive to this generation of music.</p>
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		<title>By: gail</title>
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		<dc:creator>gail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leeann, was your comment directed at me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leeann, was your comment directed at me?</p>
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