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	<title>Comments on: Four Ways that 9/11 Changed Country Music</title>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 02:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All I have to chime in is that no matter anyone&#039;s political views, it&#039;s wrong to ignore good quality music, what I&#039;m referring to is the Dixie Chicks. No matter your political views the fact that their music was pretty much wiped from radio is one of the worst things radio programmers could&#039;ve ever done!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I have to chime in is that no matter anyone&#8217;s political views, it&#8217;s wrong to ignore good quality music, what I&#8217;m referring to is the Dixie Chicks. No matter your political views the fact that their music was pretty much wiped from radio is one of the worst things radio programmers could&#8217;ve ever done!</p>
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		<title>By: Leeann Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leeann Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with Dan on both songs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with Dan on both songs.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul W Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul W Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think the biggest thing that happened to country music following 9/11 was that it began to regress into the kind of stereotypical redneck/right wing behavior that had always repelled people to the genre, a “my country, right or wrong” mentality.&quot;

I&#039;m not sure that I know how to define a redneck, but redneck behavior is everywhere and is as likely to be left-wing politically (read the DailyKos if you don&#039;t believe me) as to be right-wing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the biggest thing that happened to country music following 9/11 was that it began to regress into the kind of stereotypical redneck/right wing behavior that had always repelled people to the genre, a “my country, right or wrong” mentality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that I know how to define a redneck, but redneck behavior is everywhere and is as likely to be left-wing politically (read the DailyKos if you don&#8217;t believe me) as to be right-wing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Milliken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Milliken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 05:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mind &quot;Courtesy&quot; &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt;, too much, in all honesty. Yeah, it&#039;s nearsighted and jingoistic, with so much bravado that it begs for all the mockery and criticism it&#039;s gotten. But I feel like it comes from an emotionally  honest place, even if its &quot;emotion&quot; is a sort of flying off the handle. Toby performs it with real conviction, and it&#039;s certainly one of his best &lt;i&gt;musically&lt;/i&gt; constructed songs even if you can&#039;t take the full ride with him.

&quot;Have You Forgotten?&quot;, on the other hand, just feels willfully ill-informed and manipulative.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind &#8220;Courtesy&#8221; <i>too</i>, too much, in all honesty. Yeah, it&#8217;s nearsighted and jingoistic, with so much bravado that it begs for all the mockery and criticism it&#8217;s gotten. But I feel like it comes from an emotionally  honest place, even if its &#8220;emotion&#8221; is a sort of flying off the handle. Toby performs it with real conviction, and it&#8217;s certainly one of his best <i>musically</i> constructed songs even if you can&#8217;t take the full ride with him.</p>
<p>&#8220;Have You Forgotten?&#8221;, on the other hand, just feels willfully ill-informed and manipulative.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, kudos to you Kevin for writing this piece. I think it&#039;s something a lot of people think but it still takes guts to say it, especially in these polarized times. 

That said, I agree that 9/11 made a lot of the right wing, family values, religious ass kissing that country music does these days okay. Country music is the new rock n roll in terms of people relating to it on a pretty grand scale and I think (or rather I KNOW) a lot of this kind of stuff is what turns people off to it, which is a shame because it could be a lot more than it is, and on its own terms. It&#039;s sad that Nashville used a tragedy like 9/11 as an excuse to peddle garbage like &quot;Courtesy...&quot; and &quot;Have You Forgotten.&quot; Granted it wasn&#039;t the first time, but that doesn&#039;t make it okay. 

In a way, being beholden to these sorts of things makes country music less honest because it doesn&#039;t present both sides of the argument, and rather, tries to assume what some theoretical consumer might think instead of just putting the songs out there and letting them make their own minds up. 

All that being said, I have to say, that as much as I disagree with Toby Keith&#039;s politics (not all of it, but most), I gotta give him props for standing up for what he believes in. It doesn&#039;t seem like any other artist is really willing to stand up and have an honest opinion that wasn&#039;t cleared with their &quot;people.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, kudos to you Kevin for writing this piece. I think it&#8217;s something a lot of people think but it still takes guts to say it, especially in these polarized times. </p>
<p>That said, I agree that 9/11 made a lot of the right wing, family values, religious ass kissing that country music does these days okay. Country music is the new rock n roll in terms of people relating to it on a pretty grand scale and I think (or rather I KNOW) a lot of this kind of stuff is what turns people off to it, which is a shame because it could be a lot more than it is, and on its own terms. It&#8217;s sad that Nashville used a tragedy like 9/11 as an excuse to peddle garbage like &#8220;Courtesy&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;Have You Forgotten.&#8221; Granted it wasn&#8217;t the first time, but that doesn&#8217;t make it okay. </p>
<p>In a way, being beholden to these sorts of things makes country music less honest because it doesn&#8217;t present both sides of the argument, and rather, tries to assume what some theoretical consumer might think instead of just putting the songs out there and letting them make their own minds up. </p>
<p>All that being said, I have to say, that as much as I disagree with Toby Keith&#8217;s politics (not all of it, but most), I gotta give him props for standing up for what he believes in. It doesn&#8217;t seem like any other artist is really willing to stand up and have an honest opinion that wasn&#8217;t cleared with their &#8220;people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik North</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 01:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not saying that Alan Jackson&#039;s &quot;Where Were You When the World Stop Turning&quot; made him out to be a simplistic redneck as others might be implying.  

But I do believe, without question, that Toby Keith (with &quot;Courtesy&quot;) and Darryl Worley (&quot;Have You Forgtten?&quot;) were engaged in some none-too-subtle finger-pointing at those who honorably, or even slightly, disagreed with &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; view of America.  One can make the case that they were being patriotic &lt;i&gt;as they saw it&lt;/i&gt;.  But to call any protesters of the Iraq war or the Bush Administration somehow &quot;un-American&quot; was not the least bit patriotic of them, as far as I&#039;m concerned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not saying that Alan Jackson&#8217;s &#8220;Where Were You When the World Stop Turning&#8221; made him out to be a simplistic redneck as others might be implying.  </p>
<p>But I do believe, without question, that Toby Keith (with &#8220;Courtesy&#8221;) and Darryl Worley (&#8220;Have You Forgtten?&#8221;) were engaged in some none-too-subtle finger-pointing at those who honorably, or even slightly, disagreed with <i>their</i> view of America.  One can make the case that they were being patriotic <i>as they saw it</i>.  But to call any protesters of the Iraq war or the Bush Administration somehow &#8220;un-American&#8221; was not the least bit patriotic of them, as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been reading through a lot of these comments, and I just genuinely disagree with a lot of them. Number 1, the point of this article was to point out 4 ways that country music was changed by 9/11. All 4 of these things happened as a direct or indirect result of the terrorist attack. The point of this article was not to slanderize pro-war or anti-war points of view. Number 2, Toby Keith and Alan Jackson are NOT just simple rednecks who wrote a demeaning song. They are both artists who were probably trying to make sense of what happened--the same way we all were. They were being patriotic whether people like the way they went about it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading through a lot of these comments, and I just genuinely disagree with a lot of them. Number 1, the point of this article was to point out 4 ways that country music was changed by 9/11. All 4 of these things happened as a direct or indirect result of the terrorist attack. The point of this article was not to slanderize pro-war or anti-war points of view. Number 2, Toby Keith and Alan Jackson are NOT just simple rednecks who wrote a demeaning song. They are both artists who were probably trying to make sense of what happened&#8211;the same way we all were. They were being patriotic whether people like the way they went about it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik North</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik North</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the biggest thing that happened to country music following 9/11 was that it began to regress into the kind of stereotypical redneck/right wing behavior that had always repelled people to the genre, a &quot;my country, right or wrong&quot; mentality.  Of course, back in the 1960s, if you were against the Vietnam War, you were either a Commie or a sympathizer, but for certain you were &quot;anti-American.&quot;

In our current time, if you opposed Bush&#039;s wars, you were a terrorist sympathizer.  Or at least that&#039;s how Toby Keith, Darryl Worley, and their bunch saw it.  But what was true in the 60s is as true today, that when the level of jingoism in song goes up, the quality of the music always seems to go down; and I feel that&#039;s what has happened to mainstream country music.  Anyone remember Clint Black&#039;s &quot;Iraq And I Roll&quot;, one of the worst examples of post-9/11 country jingoism?

And I&#039;d just as soon not say any more about what  what was done to the Dixie Chicks, except to say that it was disgusting.  Music Row shot itself in the foot there.

If there was a bright spot for country music in post-9/11 America, then I think it happened in that little fringe known as the Americana sector.  Certainly there was plenty of anti-war sentiment to go around there, but there was also a nuanced form of patriotism in at least one song of note--&quot;Bird Of Freedom&quot;, by Tift Merritt, off of her 2002 debut album &lt;i&gt;Bramble Rose&lt;/i&gt;.  In fact, I feel that Tift has been the single best female vocalist to come along in &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; musical genre since 9/11, so maybe there&#039;s hope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest thing that happened to country music following 9/11 was that it began to regress into the kind of stereotypical redneck/right wing behavior that had always repelled people to the genre, a &#8220;my country, right or wrong&#8221; mentality.  Of course, back in the 1960s, if you were against the Vietnam War, you were either a Commie or a sympathizer, but for certain you were &#8220;anti-American.&#8221;</p>
<p>In our current time, if you opposed Bush&#8217;s wars, you were a terrorist sympathizer.  Or at least that&#8217;s how Toby Keith, Darryl Worley, and their bunch saw it.  But what was true in the 60s is as true today, that when the level of jingoism in song goes up, the quality of the music always seems to go down; and I feel that&#8217;s what has happened to mainstream country music.  Anyone remember Clint Black&#8217;s &#8220;Iraq And I Roll&#8221;, one of the worst examples of post-9/11 country jingoism?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d just as soon not say any more about what  what was done to the Dixie Chicks, except to say that it was disgusting.  Music Row shot itself in the foot there.</p>
<p>If there was a bright spot for country music in post-9/11 America, then I think it happened in that little fringe known as the Americana sector.  Certainly there was plenty of anti-war sentiment to go around there, but there was also a nuanced form of patriotism in at least one song of note&#8211;&#8221;Bird Of Freedom&#8221;, by Tift Merritt, off of her 2002 debut album <i>Bramble Rose</i>.  In fact, I feel that Tift has been the single best female vocalist to come along in <i>any</i> musical genre since 9/11, so maybe there&#8217;s hope.</p>
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		<title>By: the pistolero</title>
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		<dc:creator>the pistolero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;the careers of Lee Ann Womack and SHeDaisy nearly ended&lt;/b&gt;

I don&#039;t know about SheDaisy, but I thought a big reason for LAW&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Something Worth Leaving Behind&lt;/i&gt; not doing well was the perception — aided by lack of airplay — of the title track as her trying to repeat the success of &quot;I Hope You Dance&quot; with a similar formula and people letting that assessment color their opinion of the rest of the album.

(For the record I didn&#039;t get SWLB, but I heard that beyond the title track it was more or less classic Womack.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>the careers of Lee Ann Womack and SHeDaisy nearly ended</b></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about SheDaisy, but I thought a big reason for LAW&#8217;s <i>Something Worth Leaving Behind</i> not doing well was the perception — aided by lack of airplay — of the title track as her trying to repeat the success of &#8220;I Hope You Dance&#8221; with a similar formula and people letting that assessment color their opinion of the rest of the album.</p>
<p>(For the record I didn&#8217;t get SWLB, but I heard that beyond the title track it was more or less classic Womack.)</p>
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		<title>By: Travis McClain (@TravisSMcClain)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis McClain (@TravisSMcClain)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a lot of ways, &quot;Iraq/Iran&quot; is one of the most important parts of &quot;Where Were You,&quot; because it confesses an ignorance of our 9/10 world view as a society.  I can appreciate the apprehension that it suggests a stereotype of country listeners as uneducated but the truth is, that was an ignorance found throughout America among most groups.  Do you think there were many non-Muslims outside of college campuses who were even aware that Iranians are Persian, not Arabic?

Jackson&#039;s song was written by a man who grew up in the 9/10 world.  Up to that day, most people didn&#039;t need or want to know anything more than they already did about the Middle East.  In truth, I suspect that many Americans still fail to make any distinctions or understand that part of the world but a lot of more of us have come to appreciate that there &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; differences, and that those differences matter.

Regarding the proliferation of female artists, Paul W. Dennis is right to say that the pop-country trend was destined to yield to something anyway.  The problem--and it&#039;s not with Mr. Dennis, but with Nashville--is the notion that women who perform country music must perform pop-country.  It appears instead that Music Row is simply more comfortable with female artists if they can be presented as an alternative to female pop artists, rather than as counterparts to male country artists.

Think to the 70s, when you had Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton, Tammy Wynette; they were country artists.  Few people hear their names and associate them with anything else (except, you know, Dolly).  For the last 20 years, though, nearly every female country artist has been styled to resemble pop artists; sexually-charged music videos to get the attention of males, but sanitized for the approval of soccer moms.  Even those who didn&#039;t start out that way (Sara Evans, Faith Hill, Martina McBride, LeAnn Rimes, Shania Twain) eventually revamped their images to stay competitive.

I&#039;m not knocking their artistic explorations, mind you.  Evans didn&#039;t completely engage me until &lt;i&gt;Born to Fly&lt;/i&gt;, and while we can debate how country and how pop &lt;i&gt;The Woman in Me&lt;/i&gt; is, &lt;i&gt;Come on Over&lt;/i&gt; was clearly a pop-country album and it was terrific.  But it smacks of a clueless gender bias in Nashville that has little confidence that a female country artist can be just that.

The only female country artist I can think offhand who started out country and has stayed that way is Gretchen Wilson.  But it appears Sony was only really interested in using her to help plug the hole in their roster and sales left by the fall of the Dixie Chicks; they pushed her &quot;Redneck Woman&quot; persona, but seemed unable or unwilling to really support her beyond that.  It&#039;s a shame, too, because when she steps away from the jingoistic anthems, she&#039;s cut some strong stuff; &quot;When I Think About Cheating&quot; should be considered an overlooked gem of the last decade when we look back.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a lot of ways, &#8220;Iraq/Iran&#8221; is one of the most important parts of &#8220;Where Were You,&#8221; because it confesses an ignorance of our 9/10 world view as a society.  I can appreciate the apprehension that it suggests a stereotype of country listeners as uneducated but the truth is, that was an ignorance found throughout America among most groups.  Do you think there were many non-Muslims outside of college campuses who were even aware that Iranians are Persian, not Arabic?</p>
<p>Jackson&#8217;s song was written by a man who grew up in the 9/10 world.  Up to that day, most people didn&#8217;t need or want to know anything more than they already did about the Middle East.  In truth, I suspect that many Americans still fail to make any distinctions or understand that part of the world but a lot of more of us have come to appreciate that there <i>are</i> differences, and that those differences matter.</p>
<p>Regarding the proliferation of female artists, Paul W. Dennis is right to say that the pop-country trend was destined to yield to something anyway.  The problem&#8211;and it&#8217;s not with Mr. Dennis, but with Nashville&#8211;is the notion that women who perform country music must perform pop-country.  It appears instead that Music Row is simply more comfortable with female artists if they can be presented as an alternative to female pop artists, rather than as counterparts to male country artists.</p>
<p>Think to the 70s, when you had Loretta Lynn, Dolly Parton, Tammy Wynette; they were country artists.  Few people hear their names and associate them with anything else (except, you know, Dolly).  For the last 20 years, though, nearly every female country artist has been styled to resemble pop artists; sexually-charged music videos to get the attention of males, but sanitized for the approval of soccer moms.  Even those who didn&#8217;t start out that way (Sara Evans, Faith Hill, Martina McBride, LeAnn Rimes, Shania Twain) eventually revamped their images to stay competitive.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not knocking their artistic explorations, mind you.  Evans didn&#8217;t completely engage me until <i>Born to Fly</i>, and while we can debate how country and how pop <i>The Woman in Me</i> is, <i>Come on Over</i> was clearly a pop-country album and it was terrific.  But it smacks of a clueless gender bias in Nashville that has little confidence that a female country artist can be just that.</p>
<p>The only female country artist I can think offhand who started out country and has stayed that way is Gretchen Wilson.  But it appears Sony was only really interested in using her to help plug the hole in their roster and sales left by the fall of the Dixie Chicks; they pushed her &#8220;Redneck Woman&#8221; persona, but seemed unable or unwilling to really support her beyond that.  It&#8217;s a shame, too, because when she steps away from the jingoistic anthems, she&#8217;s cut some strong stuff; &#8220;When I Think About Cheating&#8221; should be considered an overlooked gem of the last decade when we look back.</p>
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