NPR “Turning the Tables” List: A Conversation, Part Six: Pop Goes the Country Universe (#1-#150)

Part Six: Pop Goes the Country Universe, #1-#150

Today, we begin our conversation about the non-country elements of the NPR list. This post discusses artists who are on the list with curious albums to represent their work. Next, we’ll do a full post on the albums chosen from the extensive catalog of Madonna, and finally, a post of artists not included (MIA) and strangely included (WTF?).

As always, share your thoughts in the comments!

14. Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston

NPR said:

From sweet flirtation to full-throated proclamation, Whitney Houston‘s vocal range remains fresh and vibrant some three decades after this album was released. There are just 10 songs on this debut album by a daughter of soul royalty (her mother is Cissy Houston; her cousin, Dionne Warwick and her godmother, Aretha Franklin). But it’s chock full of Whitney classics, including the lovelorn ballad “All At Once” and the breezy “Saving All My Love for You.” —Nina Gregory (NPR Staff)

Kevin: Among the unfortunate trends of this list is its overemphasis on debut albums, celebrating female artists at the point of their careers where their experience and creative control were both limited. Sometimes an artist really does peak the first time out, but more often, they truly express themselves artistically once they have enough credibility to make music on their own terms. Whitney Houston is an album made by committee, and it sounds like it. Houston’s vocals are, of course, beyond reproach. But she was always more of an urban artist than her label allowed her to be. The best showcases of her talent are the 1990 release I’m Your Baby Tonight, which was followed up eight years later with the best album of career: My Love is Your Love.

Jonathan: Some of Houston’s phrasing choices on Whitney Houston nod toward jazz improvisation in ways that are more interesting and thoughtful than the glorynote belting that characterized so much of her subsequent work. In terms of just her singing, I think her debut remains her best album, though I agree that My Love Is Your Love is her best overall album: It’s the album on which the songwriting and production felt the most authentic to the artist Houston aspired to be.

25. Ani DiFranco, Little Plastic Castle

NPR said:

Lyrically, the songwriting is not necessarily as challenging or refined as her previous work. But DiFranco’s words resonated with her audience, which expanded considerably following this release…The album’s lyrics dealt with infidelity, relationships across the gender spectrum and fighting for respect. And although some misunderstood her outspokenness for anger, many found her music completely cathartic, seeing themselves reflected in her pain and struggle. —Cindy Howes

Jonathan: DiFranco was a pioneer for DIY, truly independent artists in the 90s, and she’s hands-down the most potent folk artist of her era. It always surprises me how little of her influence I hear in contemporary artists. While Little Plastic Castle was her most commercially successful album, it isn’t a patch on either Not A Pretty Girl or especially Dilate, which found DiFranco at the peak of her craft. She did outrage, introspection, and generation-defining angst better than just about anyone.

Kevin: Even NPR seems to hedge on their own pick here, and with good reason. As Jonathan articulates so well, the commercial peak and creative peak were not the same for DiFranco. I echo his selections, and agree that Dilate was a definitive high point.

27. Tori Amos, Little Earthquakes

NPR said:

Little Earthquakes was so earth-shattering upon its release that it almost immediately became a standard influence for idiosyncratic singer/songwritersannoyingly, any woman playing a piano was hereby compared to Amos following the release. Little Earthquakes is rife with evidence that Amos was and is a bold musician, but that’s nowhere clearer than on “Me and a Gun.” The song is based on her own account of sexual assault and started a movement, as well as her assault and rape crisis hotline RAINN that encouraged victims of violence against women to speak out. Through Little Earthquakes Tori exuded sexual empowerment that was not for anyone else but her, which, in turn, transformed her into an icon. Cindy Howes

Jonathan: I don’t have any reservations about the inclusion of Tori Amos’ astonishing debut,  Little Earthquakes, on the NPR list or about its lofty placement. Both of those are richly deserved. If anything, the issue is that it’s the only one of her albums to make the list, when each of her first four albums– a run that includes Under the Pink, the dense and tricky Boys for Pele, and the nervy from the choirgirl hotel— belongs in a discussion of the best albums by women. And the same can be said for the fact that both Bjork and PJ Harvey were each included only once.

Kevin: My heart will always be with Little Earthquakes, one of those debut albums that was as much a revelation as it was an introduction. But the string of albums that followed delivered on the promise of that introduction and then some.

94. Sheryl Crow, Tuesday Night Music Club

NPR said:

While “All I Wanna Do” is so pop-tastically infectious that it easily could have thrown Crow into the “one-hit-wonder” category, songs like “Strong Enough,” “No One Said It Would Be Easy” and “Run, Baby, Run” proved that a multi-faceted musician had arrived. It also earned Crow a rightful place in the public consciousness as a soulful singer and lyricist possessing a true gift for knowing which phrases to lean on, and a musician not afraid to get some new mileage out of some familiar country instruments (pedal steel and accordion, to name two). But it’s the variety of textures, sounds and ideas you’ll find in Tuesday Night Music Club that showed the music industry that women didn’t have to be pigeonholed into any one category or genre. —Elena See (Folk Alley/MPR)

Kevin: Completely baffling choice. Both vocally and lyrically, Tuesday Night Music Club showcases Crow’s talents at their least developed. She followed up this album with two near-perfect collections – Sheryl Crow and The Globe Sessions.  I’d pick Sheryl Crow as the stronger of the two, but both albums tower over the rest of Crow’s work, including her camparatively tepid debut.

Jonathan: Co-sign. This is an egregious choice for Crow. Her self-titled album is start-to-finish extraordinary– and it’s a better country album than her “country” album, for what it’s worth– and truly cemented her legacy. That it also served as a blistering reply to the men of the Tuesday Night Music Club who wanted to take some of the credit for her breakthrough would have made it a more pointed choice, too, for a list that’s meant to celebrate the achievements of women.

101. Eurythmics, Touch

NPR said:

Her rich contralto teeters a line of theatrics and overdramatics that creates a cohesion to Touch that would otherwise go unrealized. In “Right by Your Side,” she levitates in love, only to tear herself down with a cringe-worthy moment of clarity: “When depression starts to win / I need to be right by your side.” Even steel pans and joyous synthesizers can’t distract from harsh reality — and there is a particular loneliness to this album, particularly on “Who’s That Girl?” which allows narrative longing and minimal production to cut to the core. Sadness never sounded so cool. —Maria Sherman

Kevin: The contrast between the soulful vocals of Annie Lennox and the cold electronic sound of Eurythmics made for some great records, Touch included. But Annie Lennox should’ve been represented here by her solo work, particularly the landmark Diva album from 1992. “Why” they overlooked that set is a mystery to me.

Jonathan: I think I’d split the difference here and have included both of the albums you’ve mentioned. Diva is a significant album and a surprising omission to be sure, but I don’t know that I could say that it’s definitively the better album.

139. Bangles, All Over the Place

NPR said:

On the infectiously catchy album, Susanna Hoffs, Vicki and Debbie Peterson and Michael Steele flexed their chops, sharing Beatles-worthy vocal harmonies and wielding jangly guitars like The Byrds. Like too many pop bands of the time, The Bangles became known more for videos with pretty faces and big hair than the true Girl Power they brought to us all. Yet to allow The Bangles’ success to overshadow the group’s credibility and importance would be a shame. —Rita Houston (WFUV)

Jonathan: I love The Bangles the way you love Olivia Newton John: I have all of their albums, including their solo work and side projects. I love that they’re pop classicists and how, even at their most studio-slick, those instincts shine through. Song-for-song, All Over the Place is their strongest album, even though I also love the non-“Walk Like An Egyptian” tracks of Different Light just as much.

Kevin: And I would recommend that after enjoying All Over the Place and Different Light, to dive into Everything. I think that their finest moment on record was the stopgap between their two big hit albums, “Hazy Shade of Winter,” and I would absolutely be comfortable including all three core Bangles albums on any definitive list of albums by women. The Go-Gos got all the love, but the Bangles were the most consistently excellent women’s band that side of the Dixie Chicks.


  1. Where should I began. I love Whitney’s debut album, it’s one of the best female debut albums ever. My Love Is Your Love is a close second. Ani’s Not A Pretty Girl is her best album personally. Little Plastic Castle is good, but Not A Pretty Girl is more cohesive album from beginning to end. Tori Amos is one of my all time favorite female artists. Her first 4 albums are classics. I love Little Earthquakes, but IMO, Boys For Pele is her best work. You feel Tori pouring her heart all over Boys For Pele. I love Sheryl Crow’s first three albums, but I always been in the minority that prefer her self titled sophomore album over Tuesday Night Club. I love Tuesday Night Club, but Sheryl Crow is more raw. You can feel the angst within Sheryl’s voice and songwriting and it was proof that Sheryl was more than All I Wanna Do. Touch is a such a dope album. Annie’s voice will always light your mood. I shock Diva didn’t make the list. It’s a solid project. I love the Bangles. They’re one of the greatest girls groups ever. All Over The Place and Different Light are excellent pop records. The NPR Turning The Tables might be one of best things you have ever did. You guys insights on every album is well written and made me go back and listen to albums that got left off the list. You guys are awesome!

  2. I like TNMC, but I agree ‘Sheryl Crow’ or (my favorite) ‘The Globe Sessions’ would’ve been a much, much better pick.

    Great Bangles pick! ‘Different Light’ may be practically a greatest-hits LP unto itself, but ‘All Over the Place’ feels a lot closer to their Paisley Underground roots. (Looove their cover of Katrina & the Waves’ “Going Down to Liverpool”!) :)

    Other favorites of mine that made the list:
    Kate Bush, ‘Hounds of Love’
    The B-52s, s/t
    Patti Smith, ‘Horses’
    Pretenders, s/t
    Sinead O’Connor, ‘I Do Not Want What I Haven’t Got’ (too bad ‘The Lion & the Cobra’ couldn’t also have made the list…)
    Dusty Springfield, ‘Dusty In Memphis’
    Fleetwood Mac, ‘Rumours’
    Portishead, ‘Dummy’
    Marianne Faithfull, ‘Broken English’
    Rickie Lee Jones, ‘Pirates’
    Bonnie Raitt, ‘Nick of Time’
    Stevie Nicks, ‘Belladonna’
    Norah Jones, ‘Come Away With Me’
    Joan Baez, ‘Diamonds & Rust’

    Albums I don’t have, but I have many tracks from them on compilations/anthologies:
    The Go-Go’s, ‘Beauty and the Beat’
    Cyndi Lauper, ‘She’s So Unusual’
    Blondie, ‘Parallel Lines’ (I have all but ONE track from it on ‘The Platinum Collection’! :D )
    Janet Jackson, ‘Control’

  3. I love the inclusion of Daydream, too, and I’ll add that “Forever” off that one is a country classic in the making if a good country singer redid it. I know someone did it as a country song on American Idol. Still, Butterfly should also be included. I love the previous post’s shout out for the vocal arrangements. Mariah’s ear for both melody and vocal arranging is next level.

    Joan Osborne’s Relish should be on this list. The big hit “One of Us” isn’t close to being one of the best songs on the album, though it plays well in context.

    I’d have gone with The Velvet Rope for Janet Jackson, but it’s not like I can argue with the inclusion of Control.

  4. Jess,

    YES!!! I was just thinking about ‘Relish.’ The list-makers might have considered Osborne redundant with “Lilith Fair” peers like Sheryl Crow and Fiona Apple already on there (not to mention earlier/older artists like Janis Joplin and Bonnie Raitt, whom Joan resembles vocally), but that album is a classic in its own right and has held up remarkably well. :)

  5. Gena – I love it and still listen to it 20 years later. Pensacola, St Teresa, Right Hand Man, Dracula Moon, Luminina, etc are diverse and remarkable.

    That Album of the Year category at the Grammys – Relish, Daydream, Jagged Little Pill, Vitalogy, and History – was pretty remarkable outside of the Michael Jackson nod. If CrazySexyCool or Nirvana’s Unplugged had replaced History, it would have been a perfect category.

  6. So many good songs; I think “Spider Web” might be my fave. “I dreamed about Ray Charles last night, and he could see just fine…”

    Holy moly, that was a good year! :D And yeah, I agree that TLC or Nirvana would’ve made much more sense than ‘History.’

  7. That 1995-1998 stretch was SO RICH for music by females. I’m sure there are a lot more, but we had Lauryn Hill’s solo debut, Lucinda Williams’ Car Wheels on a Gravel Road, Madonna with Ray of Light, Relish, Jagged Little Pill, Sheryl Crow’s The Globe Sessions, Bjork’s Post and Homogenic, Patty Loveless with The Trouble With the Truth and Long Stretch of Lonesome, Janet’s Velvet Rope, Shania’s The Woman In Me and Come on Over, Erykah Badu’s Baduizm, Missy Elliott’s debut, and Mariah’s Daydream and Butterfly. Incredible.

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